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EVIDENCE INTERGRATIVE-QUALITATIVE-QUANTITATIVE SDoH-HRSN DATA ANALYSIS MEETINGS (2023-04-02 10_59 GMT-7) - Transcript (11)

JC EPHRAIM’s Presentation: And don’t go. Feet on and throw. Happy. Visual.
JC EPHRAIM: So, you’re going to have 400 folks.
JC EPHRAIM: In a forum. Dancing that close together.
JC EPHRAIM: A space, not sure how big how small it’s gonna be. But the bottom line is when you’re in that close to contact and no masking, I don’t know how you can avoid infection, which brings me to the thing that I brought in, for what based on that conversation Kevin had had with me regarding this and and that was, We were talking and we were saying like, how many people in the room? We started talking about how many people in the room don’t have covid and we realized that’s not the question anymore. For evidence purposes. When you have a bunch of people in the room today versus then, It was irrelevant question as to what’s the percentage of people that are likely to be infected? Everybody. It’s different today.
JC EPHRAIM: It’s not about measuring of a piece of information. That is totally irrelevant in light of the fact that the transmission level and the infection level has gone high. It’s like how many people in the room of 400? People are likely to have covid, coronavirus infection at this event. How many people are likely to have covid. Who will show up at this event more probably than not, all of them. And he pushed back. More probably than not everybody. That’s going to show up in that event, more probable than not. Is going to have at least. They have covid. You see the difference? Three years later versus three years ago.
JC EPHRAIM: Three years ago, one year ago, two years ago how many people they gave us data the risk factor of covenant infection. Probably one in 20 one in 51 and a hundred thousand ten people in a thousand, all that bull is totally irrelevant today. We’re looking at evidence, the evidence overwhelmingly say, based on lifestyle you can say With almost absolute certainty that if a bunch of people who are predisposed to showing up in space unmasked, because that’s the way they roll. All of them have covid. All of them. So the question is, how many are transmitting That becomes a different metric and there’s no way science science can tell but there’s there’s no way.
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JC EPHRAIM: To nobody’s measuring that. That’s what I want to say. No one’s measuring transmission. They still talking about stuff, that’s totally irrelevant. Now it’s the irrelevant, how many people in the room are likely to have covid. All of them. All of them if you show it, but he’s only event. Unmasked all them probably have had covid and had it isn’t past tense, have it because if it’s a persistent virus more, probably not everybody in the room, got it? Conversation, talk about that. Going Kevin.
Kevin J: So I’ll jump in with a couple things. One. Kudos to you for picking a song with great music and a very good dancer. It’s a lead. To. Now, y’all know why I miss it but my health is more important.
Kevin J: As you see from the dance. if one person is transmitting, there is no way in hell, the other person’s not going to get it. because, The dance. So there’s workshops during the day. And then the social starts at 10 o’clock at night. When does the final social in the night end? 6 o’clock in the morning. At the after party.
JC EPHRAIM: Okay, let’s modify the language. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. There’s no likely of getting it. They already have it.
Kevin J: but okay, getting reinfected
JC EPHRAIM: Got it, got it, which is a valuable metric. So valuable metric.
Kevin J: Yeah. Because no.
JC EPHRAIM: What’s the risk infection? But there’s no way to know that because we don’t know the rate of transmission We don’t know how many in the room are transmitting the virus because everybody got it. We don’t know how many are actively transmitting. It changes everything that data isn’t even beginning to nobody’s county. Nobody nobody’s counting in those rooms,…
Kevin J: Nobody’s trying to count it.
JC EPHRAIM: nobody’s figured out. Oh, by the way, in a room when everybody got covid. How many in this room are transmitting? Nobody’s looking at that data.
Kevin J: acl Add If you were to use the language, you just used in a public forum. With people in healthcare. They would look at your cross side. because they think you, Okay.
JC EPHRAIM: Hmm. No, I was in a meeting. No, they won’t. Look at me go outside. I’m gonna change that. I was in a meeting with their department. No, they won’t. Look at me cross-site. They have accepted that everybody’s been exposed, they will say that. Everybody, if they saw that dancing,…
Kevin J: oh,
JC EPHRAIM: they would say Oh yeah, if you put 400 people, if this is their lifestyle they all been infected, they were sure more than that.
Kevin J: Okay, but you I want to be really precise.
JC EPHRAIM: Everybody’s been infected Okay,…
JC EPHRAIM: Beep set.
Kevin J: we’ll be agree with you when you say, Well, when you lay down, May God infected with covid last year. And as of today, they have covid. Okay, that’s a big themes.
JC EPHRAIM: Yes, they would accept that persistent. That’s do you know Steve W.
Kevin J: That’s a huge.
JC EPHRAIM: You’ve heard it since the u Dub, the leader of the UW.
JC EPHRAIM: And are talking about persistent virus. You hear it. I played a couple of We actually have a video up, You can go look at it. It talks about persistent virus. That’s why they’re working on something to prevent people from getting infected is something that prevent people from getting reinfected. They’ve accepted the concept of persistent virus. The virus is persistent. It doesn’t seem to go away. There are people who are asymptomatic, they’re people who don’t, they, They say you either asymptomatic, but you got it, you either mild moderate or severe but they, they’re not looking at it from the standpoint. There are some people who get that that’s that population of thinking is shrinking like like something dropping from a high height and accelerating as it hit the ground. They they’re not thinking people get covid anymore and get over it. They thinking they get it and they symptomatic, they get it in their mouth.
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JC EPHRAIM: They get it in their moderate. They get it in their severe. That’s where we are. And that’s going up like a rocket and…
Kevin J: And and…
JC EPHRAIM: the other one.
Kevin J: they have it forever.
JC EPHRAIM: They got it. You got it. You got it. That’s it. You got it.
Kevin J: Okay.
JC EPHRAIM: You got it David accepting that persistent virus because the hospitals are full of people and they keep testing them and they still are coming back negative and then nasal. But yet still they got all the signs of covid.
Kevin J: Yep.
JC EPHRAIM: It’s like and they’re telling them it, this is what my covid. It looked like it’s worse, it’s not even Colleen. Colleen said, Covid is like she said, Covid is long covid. It’s like a. She says, like something that attacks you find your weaknesses in your body and she was one of those. Oh, I’m all better. It’s all gone. Daddy, die. It’s like it finds weaknesses in your body and it keeps attacking.
JC EPHRAIM: Attacking attacking attacking. That’s even. She has shifted her thinking about it. She’s she was one of those people who was saying, I took the Pax, love it, it’s all over. I feel 100% and she’s laying up in a hospital. Her legs is biggest, tree trunks and touch your skin, and it, the blood oozes from underneath, she’s in that kind of condition. Right now, she’s in terrible condition in the hospital. Right now and that’s the least of her trouble in terms of what’s going on. So I wanted to bring into evidence that I’m glad you brought it up, but notion that covid you get it. You’re done. It’s dropping like a stone from a high height accelerating as it. Hit the ground and the notion of presentation. The concept of persistent virus based on evidence is going up like a rocket. People are saying Yeah.
JC EPHRAIM: Yeah, we got it. You got it. You got it. It’s just a question of whether or not you got it in. You don’t have any symptoms, the question you got it, you got mild symptoms and it’s ongoing. So some people are saying what’s reported in fact. David, I’m glad you brought that up. Let’s put that evidence on the screen here and David, you tell me where you, where you put, what you did with it, if you can tell me, do you know where you put it David? About the who. I sent you guys this. In prep for this meeting.
David Elfalan: Which piece are you talking about? You were just
JC EPHRAIM: Huh. Didn’t you take what I did for the Who?
JC EPHRAIM: You said you did a report like, This. This one is this the one you worked on this morning?
JC EPHRAIM: Can you see Weekly Who epidemiological update on? Only the reported COVID-19 cases March 30th 2023. Is that what you worked on that? You said you put into jet chat gbt
David Elfalan: No. What I did the CDC page that listed the

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JC EPHRAIM: Oh, something else. Okay?
David Elfalan: The symptoms of long covid and created a questionnaire out of it.
JC EPHRAIM: Oh yeah,…
David Elfalan: That’s what I did.
JC EPHRAIM: okay, I’m a definitely want you to bring that in here. Okay, if you guys can see this on your screen, okay? Take a look at this. This is the report the World Health Organization report I pulled it from you know John Campbell’s always saying Don’t take my word for it, look at the evidence. So I find it beneficial to hear what he start to talk about find the evidence because he’s totally cracked now, his brain is cracked. So he sometimes just I don’t know what he’s talking about. John be out there, man, but he said, This is what they said. He said globally nearly 3.6 million, new cases and over 25,000 deaths were reported In the last 28 days. Okay. In the last 28 days, 3.6 million, new cases. Reported 25,000 new deaths reported. Now, here’s where they go off the grid.
JC EPHRAIM: They don’t say a decrease in reporting. 27% and 39%. Secondly, they make it seem like they don’t say it because they want cover. I’m gonna be honest, they, they’re smart about this, they want cover, so they say a decrease of 27% and 39% respectively. Most people, the way we think is human beings would think that they’re talking about covid, actually, decreasing worldwide as it, relate of cases, and deaths. No. This is a cover for saying a reported decrease the data.
JC EPHRAIM: The reporting has gone down, not the disease. But most of us would say, Oh, it’s getting over. It’s getting over. As opposed to saying the report, they they put the word report here report it up at the top. There it is. Then they say to decrease is in the decrease, right here is in the reporting. Most people don’t make the connection that there’s a 27 to 39 percent decrease in reporting. NOT a 27 to 39 percent decrease in case what an infection case infections. Any comments. You get it.
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JC EPHRAIM: Covering themselves as of the 26th of March, okay? 23 over 700, 31 million confirmed cases. Again, report it and over 6.8 million deaths. Reported, there it is, again. Globally. the only telling you, Read this as written, we’re talking about how many cases have been reported, not talking about how many people have been infected, and I can prove it. So, here we go to countries, we’re gonna go to the country of Where is Africa? Boom. See if we can pull that up. Did it pull up? There it is. Africa. Take this out. Look what they got.
JC EPHRAIM: Look at what they got in terms of data for Africa. Okay, let me see if I can pull one up, but we’re not talking about Just data, we’re talking about. Hold on, I want to grab Every. I want to grab some stats.
JC EPHRAIM: Not the vaccination. Vulnerable population, find a publication making healthier Africa. We see I saw I saw they how many cases they were talking about, where is that? Mmm,
JC EPHRAIM: Where is it? Where’s the statistics? Africa. Okay, we got Africa. Where’s the stats?
JC EPHRAIM: Oh, data and evidence. There we go. You still see my screen, right?
JC EPHRAIM: Okay. Data.
JC EPHRAIM: So they got some, they got some keeping track of stuff tools going on down there. Where’s Covid? See if we can find Covid’s Covid on this list. And see, there’s HIV tuberculosis malaria other communal disease. Covid must be here. Why would they not have Covid here at all? Okay, must clicked into the wrong thing.
Kevin J: JC, it could be in other.
JC EPHRAIM: Code.
JC EPHRAIM: See if it’s here.
JC EPHRAIM: Is it? It’s like this covid-19 in here. Like here.
Kevin J: Well, you said other communicable diseases, it’s in other communicable disease. So it’d been in our other category.
JC EPHRAIM: Okay, got it. Okay, so let me go back. you said, go to
JC EPHRAIM: other communal diseases.
JC EPHRAIM: Where is it? I thought I saw see.
JC EPHRAIM: These no less nations. Data.
JC EPHRAIM: Okay, that’s not it. here, all yeah.
JC EPHRAIM: I got some names now. Let’s help help. No. They must have their own for covid. Let me see.
JC EPHRAIM: Actually.
JC EPHRAIM: 19 Search for Covid-19.
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Kevin J: Yes. Wow that’s only back in 2020 in terms of that data. That’s bizarre.
JC EPHRAIM: Yeah, it’s pretty small.
JC EPHRAIM: This is not cool.
Kevin J: So in the search bar, after covid-19, add a space in 2023 to see if there’s something that’s more recent
Kevin J: No, no, not a dash. yeah, just
JC EPHRAIM: Oh, okay. The space.
Kevin J: yeah.
Kevin J: okay, so this is Africa emerges from Holiday travel season with low number of cup. Okay? Yeah.
JC EPHRAIM: We’re not good.
Kevin J: Oh, that COVID-19 response monthly bulletins that could have some updated data.
JC EPHRAIM: Here we go.
JC EPHRAIM: Says October. That’s kind of old.
Kevin J: October 2022. Damn. There. Are not. Whoa, does that mean they haven’t published anything since October? Oh wow,…
JC EPHRAIM: Oh no.
Kevin J: because I saw September just below. Scroll down a little bit so we can see the months that they published.
JC EPHRAIM: Yep.
JC EPHRAIM: You see me? Do it again to refresh? Griefing on covid.
JC EPHRAIM: Is this the briefing? Okay, this is vaccination. Response. This is response. What about a Oh,…
Kevin J: Yeah, you on that before? Yeah.
JC EPHRAIM: there it is. Got it. Countries affected, African Countries, 47 Countries. According to them, they’re only that’s eight million. Nine hundred and seventy two thousand, nine hundred ninety nine cases in Africa and as only 174,219 did report it And this is as of 322, 322 322.
JC EPHRAIM: So that’s what they got for it. And we know these numbers, this is all that’s been reported in 47 countries in Africa.
JC EPHRAIM: We know the infection rate is off the chart. How many people you think in Africa? How many billion? People in Africa and they’re saying that they’re, that’s verification. That is only reported deaths. Not. Deaths so to speak. Let me see if you view a dashboard, maybe that is something. It was a dashboard to view.
JC EPHRAIM: I don’t know what value it is, but I just thought I’d click on it. Oh, there it is. Case was reported, you see it? What is this?
JC EPHRAIM: This is their dashboard. But I assert this is proof that it’s only reported. We have Africans in our meetings connected to their countries, their families. This is anybody here
JC EPHRAIM: thinking that there’s only been eight million 971,629. infections in Africa, the whole nation, anybody here believe that as to be the fact, the fact of the matter, that’s the only infections they’ve been or is that only what’s reported Do we accept that or we on different pages here?
Donald Ephraim: I’ll say a reporter.
JC EPHRAIM: I’m sorry.

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Donald Ephraim: I’ll go with reported not.
JC EPHRAIM: Got it. This was what evidence I would offer us to know and in America they says it’s 200 million people infected or have been reported infections over about 200 million, reported infections 190, Plus million Americans have tested positive for coronavirus. That’s a confirmed test as they say. This is our confirm test. That’s about close to two-thirds and that in Africa, and we only got 300 something, odd million people. How many people in the country of Africa, and this is why they keep coming up versus reports versus trying to present reports as facts.
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JC EPHRAIM: That’s reported data as a fact of the matter. And that’s why I say evidence that facts are not data data are not facts. The moment, you turn it into data, there’s something in the story made up in this versus well, what’s the phenomena? The phenomena is How many people in the country? I’m sorry. The nation. How many people on the continent of Africa? 2016, the population of Africa was 1,130,000. So they consider they got a billion black folks, okay? In Africa. And they’re saying Well, only eight. Eight million of them got infected. That’s ridiculous. You know it, I know it, the phone know it, the hobo know it.
JC EPHRAIM: Everybody. We got here have gone to Africa. Everyone that has got come. All of our people that want to Africa got sick. Elsa, went she got sick. I shall win. She got sick. She went again, she got sick again. It’s covered in covid down there. They have nothing to stop and running running through the jungle like wildfire. But they’re saying, Well, there’s only eight. Say eight million nine, hundred thousand eight million, you know? So out people say not me and people got infected down there. That’s ridiculous. So that being the case. It affords, us an opportunity by looking at this differently we say we well well let’s look at this differently.
JC EPHRAIM: If infection. Is not an issue here. People show up based on lifestyle. You can conclude that the majority of people who have a certain lifestyle with covid have been infected at least once everybody good with that. The majority of people that have a specific lifestyle, having said, Don’t that population? In other words, if you have a covid risk-taking lifestyle you have been infected at least once everybody good with that. We all on the same page with that. Anybody disagree.
JC EPHRAIM: Anybody disagree.
JC EPHRAIM: Okay, no, disagreement there. Do we have a handle then on, If you are in people doing certain lifestyle activity, how many people in that room likely have coronavirus?
JC EPHRAIM: I say all of them. Anybody disagree. All of them.
JC EPHRAIM: All been infected based on lifestyle. If that’s a given. Now, the question is, who’s transmitting, what’s the risk of transmission if everybody in the room? But you Have covid. What’s your risk of transmission?
JC EPHRAIM: Anybody know, anybody got any guesses, anybody about it.
Kevin J: I can’t say for sure, but the only estimate that I’ve seen, I think it was from King County. Is it approximately 10% of the population at any given point in time is transmitting whether they’re symptomatic or not.
JC EPHRAIM: I haven’t seen that one yet, wouldn’t you?
Kevin J: Yeah, I’ll look it up.
JC EPHRAIM: Yeah. See if you can look that one up. Yeah, because I think there were tying it. When I looked at King County, they were tying it to how many people in the room are infected, which would be transmitted. They would they would do they were looking at if, well, if you’re in a room, 10% of the people in the room, probably got covid as a part and and did de facto, they are probably transmitting as opposed to everybody in the room has covid. If you’re in the room with a bunch of people who are unmasked everybody in there, got covid. The question is, how many of those who have it? Are actively transmitting. You got it. Some are not transmitting. Some are transmitting question. Is what? What is your wrist around? Transmission infection in a room full of people who all have coronavirus?
JC EPHRAIM: Who’s looking at that data, we ain’t even began to even search on the Internet to try to figure out if they got something like that. Have they got any mouse studies primate studies to say, Let’s put it and I saw some data about trans but they weren’t focused on transmission. They were trying to prevent transmission, so they actually got it down when they were putting together, the nasal spray. They were talking about, well, let’s insect this group with Coronavirus. And they all actively infected and they all transmitting to one another. So all that was going on and there’s this group, we’re going to throw the coronavirus in there but we’ve inoculated them through a nasal transmission, to prevent them from getting the virus and it was 100% effective. Got it. That kind of stuff has happened. But the question is, What is your rate of transmission and social situation? You go to work. Everybody in the job is unmasked.
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JC EPHRAIM: The likelihood is everybody working? There has been infected. You go to the fast food joints, you go to the restaurant, Everybody likely has been infected question. How many of the transmitting? How many are not? How many are glitching? How many are not? How many are skipping? How many are not the question is Because everyone’s infection leads to either asymptomatic, mild, moderate, or severe.
JC EPHRAIM: That’s what I’m asserting.
JC EPHRAIM: Anybody got any comments?
JC EPHRAIM: I noticed they’re not pushing us in our culture to go in and get tested for anybody’s, and we now can test anybody’s from natural infection anybody’s from protection, meaning vaccinations. So we can look at anybody’s from protection against anybody’s from anybody. So, I’m sorry from vaccination anybody’s from covid infection. We now can look, and if we look at it, we can say, Oh, you got anybody’s. It’s because you have natural infection from covid. And then the other one we could say You have natural protection. I’m sorry, vaccinated protection from Covid. We can look at the two antibodies that went into people’s body either. You got it in the wild from the world or you actually stuck a needle in your arm. You got it from there. We can actually look at that. Okay. Actually can tell the science has moved on today. All right, so we’re good.
JC EPHRAIM: I noticed they’re not looking just like when we told them, are you looking at dead people to see if coverts is happening and it was involved in their body that they have covid at one point in their lives. And You know, even John was waffling in his statement today, when he put this report up about to see not the world, the World Health Organization, he was seeing and angry and frustrated and He was trying not to say when he want to say And I don’t know if you guys notice how haggard he looks these days, have you guys noticed how sickly he looks? As I look at him, I said, Is it me, or does he look like he’s actually age? And what got me looking at this when my brother, Don was the first to tell me that. Hey, man. Those it feels different, you know, before Covid. Post Covid. Let me see if we got anything on him.
JC EPHRAIM: And he looked different post-covid, long covid. So you two Okay, just say John Campbell. once you look at him,
JC EPHRAIM: Sam’s struggling now. And I’m looking at it and I see that struggle. Let’s see, YouTube.
JC EPHRAIM: See the latest one. He shot out was
JC EPHRAIM: And ain’t it here. It is Corona supremacy. All right, I’m gonna put it up.
JC EPHRAIM: okay, and then what I’m gonna do I’m gonna share video. And where is it? Omicron supremacy. He didn’t want this morning. He didn’t even call it out. He didn’t put a date on it, Man. It was deep. Can you guys see this on my screen?
JC EPHRAIM’s Presentation: Colored and cracked. Most people have been brainwashed by.
JC EPHRAIM: Here we go.
JC EPHRAIM’s Presentation: A warm. Welcome to this talk. Found some more interesting information from the World Health Organization. When I was looking through the material for the last video on vaccinated vaccination from Covid-19, the updated who roadmap this is actually.
JC EPHRAIM: Anybody notice that he appears to have aged more so looking in 2020 2021 2022? Or is it just me thinking that this is occurred? Anybody.
JC EPHRAIM: let, Did I lose you guys? No, I’m right here. Did I, did I lose my connection? I think I’m still on with you guys. Am I not
Kevin J: Yeah, you’re still here.
JC EPHRAIM: Okay, got it. Anybody notice anything?
Donald Ephraim: that’s,
JC EPHRAIM: Or is it just me looking at him and and making a mistake and what? I think I see That’s my question.
Donald Ephraim: I personally think, you know, he’s changed considerably, you know, he was a lot more spry and, you know, but since covid, yeah, he’s changed.
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JC EPHRAIM: Hmm, I saw the symptoms of his infection in multiple cases. All right,…
Donald Ephraim: Yeah.
JC EPHRAIM: let me, let me play a little of this so let’s go.

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JC EPHRAIM’s Presentation: Be quite interesting and there’s a few things to say about it. I think the main thing that emerges from it is the On as well. And truly saved us from the ravages of this pandemic or the new variants that we are seeing On the
JC EPHRAIM: You notice he says, things like that that this disease has saved us. The disease is protecting us, the natural infection is is something happened here. He’s it’s an embracing of it and he’s pushing this line of this is better. Not this is bad. Am I making that up? Anybody can you hear me?
JC EPHRAIM: Anybody can you hear me? If you can’t, hear me, tell me. I need to know.
Donald Ephraim: No way,…
Donald Ephraim: I can hear you. No hear you?
JC EPHRAIM: Okay. Got it.
JC EPHRAIM: So I’m way more.
JC EPHRAIM’s Presentation: On descended variants. And no new one has come yet. And I think it’s probably the new one will come at least in any foreseeable future because of the mass Transmissibility of the omicron variants and sublime lineages and how they basically out competed everything. I’ll send. Tours that much less. Pathogenic. What would have happened without on the corners? I believe that severe dise. have gone on for a longer period of time and more people would Died and doubted.
JC EPHRAIM: All crowd has been a blessing. This is the argument. It’s been a blessing. This is good. What would have happened without it? Gee, it would have been worse that kind of nonsense.
JC EPHRAIM’s Presentation: Really. So Omicron has saved many millions of lives throughout the world.
JC EPHRAIM: Saved. Many lives.
JC EPHRAIM’s Presentation: I am totally convinced. Came from.
JC EPHRAIM: I’m totally convinced.
JC EPHRAIM’s Presentation: Was still a matter of conjecture. It might have been from a person who was infected for a long period of time because of compromised immunity allowing time for viral evolution and there’s still a possibility. It came from reverse zeronosis in My sin Africa.
JC EPHRAIM: Okay, did you hear them? Blame it on Africa. Remember you guys I told you They’re gonna end up blaming this on us black folks. Okay, I told you they’re gonna find a way to blame black people for this. He said, Reverse sueinosis. Is responsible for all. I’m not certain. He said, I’ll give you two scenarios one, an infected person with a meal, compromised immunity, who was going around carrying this and it mutated within their body to get get at them. In other words, it had to change to take them down or reverse to a no sis out of mice in Africa. when that come from, anybody heard that argument before, mice in Africa, responsible for omicron, anybody heard that one before until now Remember, this guy got a big audience, okay, a huge audience in the white world. So, so
Donald Ephraim: I’ve never heard that before.
JC EPHRAIM: Right? Me, neither until I heard this this morning, I was listening, I said, What refers to a noses out of Africa. Oh, here we go.
JC EPHRAIM’s Presentation: You might get an answer to that one day, but I haven’t read any research on it. Let’s get down to the information that we’re talking about Covid-19 weekly epidemiological update.
JC EPHRAIM: No research.
JC EPHRAIM’s Presentation: Now we we did look at the, We used to look at these quite closely. They’ve got a bit boring. Because I haven’t bothered too much, but there are some interesting material in this one. So do do stick with it. Largely reassuring. It has to be said
JC EPHRAIM: Selling the argument that reported cases are the cases. Now he’s going to try to qualify it as you listen, he’s gonna go from. Hey, this is encouraging news and then he’s gonna say. But remember now it’s kind of in the small print. This is only people. Not everybody ain’t testing people out. Watch this listen to this garbage.
JC EPHRAIM’s Presentation: A 3.6 million new cases on, on the month last 28 days down. 7%. And of course, this is entirely now a Product of testing and how reliable the tests are. We’re all being rein. With all my. Reg. Bas. Once or twice a year. to kingdom, for example, you’re going to be
JC EPHRAIM: Reinfection.
JC EPHRAIM’s Presentation: Exposed to Omicron. That’s one Macron. That’s that’s really pretty inevitable because we are endemic and we know it’s still high levels. When the We test for it, when we actually do the tests, we do find it and that is with reliable. Or. Reliable PCI testing at sensible levels of replication. So, I am, I am quite convinced by Validity of these tests. A lot of people say that we can’t rely on these tests while some of the tests, we can’t rely but some we And we do know. There is a lot of SARS coronavirus. Regulating in the community still. I believe we can say that is a with some scientific certainty. We can say that.
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JC EPHRAIM: so the point being that that I want to get across is Again. Well we’re on our own, okay? We’re on our own. That’s where we’re at because as they put forth to science, tiffic certainty.
JC EPHRAIM: They’re leaving out words that help us understand. Well, this is just a reported. This is what people self-report, This is those that have the ability to report into a unique system that is set aside and not representative of the whole population of infection. It’s a fraction of it. Always down 27%, that’s because that’s the same way as Nizala’s agency. Nizala’s agency people when they thought they could get paid as well as food for reporting their coronavirus infection. At a higher rate. Ten, we were getting put in, they were giving us 10 a day. 10 a day, 10 a day, 10 people a day. Wow, they were backed up. They start cutting down on what people can get as a result of their active infection in King County and it’s dropped. So now we will getting one or two a day. 10 A week, maybe. Now, if we conclude that covid,
JC EPHRAIM: Is do. We’re doing much better with coronavirus because we went from 10 people a day saying, I got covid. Help me to. Now we’re down to two people a day saying I got covid. Help me. 10 People a week saying I got Covid. Help me just a flat 10. Oh God, Coronavirus is about over. Everything is fine. We know that’s a bunch of crap. We’re on the front line, we have a front in system. We know that the people decreased dramatically when the money dropped out of the game. And now it can only get food. With us to get food and a healthcare kit. And when we don’t deliver health care kit, when I make a decision like this, they make two attempts to deliver a healthcare kit. And the person. For some reason isn’t home. I abort.
JC EPHRAIM: I don’t give them permission to go back David. Like I used to say David, you can go back, blah, blah blah. I don’t do that. I know how bad it is when people call and find a catch the person and say I’m begging. You can you beg him big and I mean big him to bring it back. Well you you ain’t even home. What’s the big deal? I need it. This ain’t my first infection, the same my second. Somebody else in my family, got it. I know that the problem is huge when people are willing to take these little dinky health care kids which have very little in them, they don’t really know. But to me if you are not staying home and you have an active infection, I’m not talking about
JC EPHRAIM: historical. This is real time report except for this week people, I couldn’t believe it. What do you mean? Some people weren’t getting served as far back as February and you were paying this person that you had to let go because you found out that they were lying about what they were doing. That’s the disadvantage. She’ll tell us that story. Probably on Wednesday. When we asked her, how how did that happen that you thought that there? Your you thought that the waiting list was over and you had people on a waiting list, where were they, you know, kind of stuff, Michigan, explain it, but here’s where I’m at. We know that the incident of infection is dramatically higher. 10 a day, 10 a day really reporting ten a day 10, a day, 10 a day, and that was only a fraction of the infection rate because we had whole populations 2/3 of our population, was not reporting except as a dribble.
JC EPHRAIM: Meaning one person every now and then Eritrea was saying, I got covid. Helped me or what two people in Somali was saying, I got covid. Help me. But the money went away. It dropped to a dribble, just a dribble. We may get one African per week on the other nine are African American. We used to get fought because they’ll say 48 a week where African-American and one or two were African. So, I’m saying that reporting. Is what they’re trying to tie people’s emotions to and I as a person who deals in mood and emotion, I’m very concerned about this. because it drives behavior and hopefulness when you say, we have a 27% decrease
JC EPHRAIM: In how much covid they think that is is getting over as opposed to. Wait a minute, people are under reporting by 27 percent over the week over week or 30% week over week. We have to maintain a high vigilance based on our weekly talks with each other and finding out then no no no people dropping like flies people still dying people falling over people have the acute infection months later, dive food infection month. Later can’t see blind. Kevin did talk about his friend whereas a detached redner who’s been denying as Bobby even talked about what he had covid or not. Kevin, he even said it, I don’t have it. I do have it. I had it. Has he ever even talked about it as his retina detached, which by the way, there’s direct connection between eyes and covid infection. Go ahead. Kevin if he’s there
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JC EPHRAIM: Whatever he’s not. I’ll tell him about Bob then. Bob is the friends of Kevin so colleague. I mean, work with, he’s a leader in a leadership role on projects he do and Bob just had to have his retina reattached. I assume his reattached he and to me it’s one of the incidents that happened. I’m working with a guy right now. Who’s 35 years old, his retina detached as result of a covenant infection that caused such coughing and a coffee was so violent. That at the end of the day, he started to get blurry in one eye and he went to the doctor and saw that he had, and they had to rush him in the surgery where they could go ahead and take care of keeping his eyes. From being blind permanently in that eye. Kevin has a friend

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that this just happened to, and in the last, What is it? I think this past week, he just had his eye surgery. He was talking about taking some trip, you know, doing something, social whatever. And then he was told that he had a eye problem and then the next thing, you know, he was told he need to report the
JC EPHRAIM: Treat the next day, and the next thing you know, he needs to lay on his face for about a few days face down and all this stuff. Because retina detached, he had a complete retinal detachment and they what progressed to save his eyes and I directly attribute that to his coronavirus infection. Even though he hasn’t admitted because he’s that guy that won’t admit defeat. I mean, he’s thumbs up, I’m doing great. And so forth. They have bloody Marys and just lay on my face. Get drunk s*** face on my drunk while laying on my face. He’s that guy, you know, but it just goes to show you the lace that people will go through to convince us that 27% down that it’s not a threat.
JC EPHRAIM: Now, what does that take us to in my professional opinion. Now I’m talking purely professional, no speculation. If the abnormal becomes normal, those of us who have this normal, we’re abnormal We are the anomaly. But the question is, what are we going to do? If you are operating as though, things are the way you think they were. I don’t mean in terms of,
JC EPHRAIM: Oh, hanging out, going to hotels and going to parties and stuff. I don’t mean that kind of risk, taking behavior. I mean, when you go to businesses and you expect to be treated courteously, when you go to a business, you expect for it to be equitable exchange of currency and and services, a currency for goods. If you have those expectations and this disease has compromised, the majority of folks, the majority, so that you can’t even go to a a place that advertise that the only chicken you can get from this. Place is legs and thighs and you get home and you have a breast Got it, if you can’t even do that.
JC EPHRAIM: With certainty and security. What chances do you got traffic accidents on the rise? Okay, they’re they’re solution to that. Well, it’s charged people more, Let’s make some money. Find another thing, weaknesses in the social system. Let’s attach it to a penalty and charge people for those weaknesses in the hopes that it hurts them into compliance. Those days are over, Those days over people are not looking to comply. Based on wanting to avoid financial risks. That the psyche of that is beginning to break down. I don’t know whether anybody noticed it, but me, I noticed it clearly people are not willing not to kill you hurt you argue with you based on your size based on their the threat based on an item that I even have a gun. So, what are we going to do about adjusting ourselves to accommodate?
JC EPHRAIM: this difference in the new, Social interactive. relationships between people that are in and outside of your bubble, I’ve noticed in my life people that were like sandpaper are becoming like marshmallows and I noticed people who were like marshmallows becoming like sandpaper. I noticed the differences that people are flipping scripts and the people you expect to be one way or showing up in a different way. Not just the boy at the supermarket or the attendant at the parking lot or the doctor in the doctor’s place. Okay.
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JC EPHRAIM: When you can ask the doctor, have you ever had an infection? And he says, No, the question is, can you believe it? And to me you say well, I trust him. But is he got an incentive to say? No, I haven’t been infected. And if the incentive is high enough like protecting his bottom line like I have this thing now that says, any business
JC EPHRAIM: That’s in my life. That’s taken care of my health. That, as of Monday. And the healthcare setting. And a safety setting, remove, the mass requirement. I’m moving on to find me a different provider where they still have that requirement for masking. No matter what the impact. If they’re going to care. So little about my health. That they’re going to say it’s okay to come in here unmasked. I’m serious. I need to find me somebody else that stay do more than say, you care about my health but act like it. Because I’m immune compromise. So you got to do more.
JC EPHRAIM: Now you said you’re gonna give him a chance to say, Okay, well on that day you come in with, we all gonna wear masks and they’ll put it on the record that you at the house. All that’s gonna play out, I don’t know. But if the dentist dropped the rule around Mass wearing, I’m finding new dentists straight up. I’m not going in there. If you’re attending me. And it’s okay for people to come here unmasked. I need to go somewhere else. because, I said it and I’ll tie it back to what I was saying based on human interaction and activities. How many people in the room have been infected? Depending on the activity they engage in everybody in the house. everybody in the room, you say, Well, if if the activity so dictate advanced, a consumer dance, everybody’s been infected Okay. Budget a mass people. Okay, go in until a restaurant. Everybody’s been infected.
JC EPHRAIM: A bunch of people hanging out in a church. If everybody’s in there, unmasked, everybody’s been infected. All these different pieces of the social atom. There are eight domains work school. That’s in the same bubble. Loved ones. Same bubble. Same bubble. My loved ones, my original family. If I’m hanging out with my original family and everybody’s in the mindset that nobody wearing a mask, everybody in the house, been infected. Question is transmissibility. How many people here are transmitting? Okay. That’s not it. That’s not a made-up story. We could we could test that stuff. If you’re if you’ve been home or in somebody else’s house, you go hang out with your family and everybody in the house. They do a Ramadan right now is not wearing a mask everybody in there has been infected with Covid.
JC EPHRAIM: I would assert Everybody in here has been infected. We covered. The question is, how many of you actively transmitting at the time that we’re together? Because I hear the hobble in them talk about this. It’s ongoing sickness, everybody’s sick, everybody’s sick, that’s because of behavior. Behavior. That’s all it is. So we may have teased out something that’s valuable that can help us. We can begin to chart behavior as an indigation of a level of infection. in that activity, if it’s this unmasked, everybody who shows up, particularly, if they paid to be there, every one of them have been sick with covid, The question is, How many of transmitting you said? Well, what do you mean been sick past tense? No present, everybody’s got it. Question is, how many of them are transmitting?
JC EPHRAIM: That to me, may take us where we need to go and focus on transmission. How do we do something to figure out looking, what data do we look at to figure out transmission? What’s my risk of transmission in an environment that everybody has covid? Everybody in here has covid. What’s my risk of getting infected? Transmitted by walking through this space, any questions or comments?
JC EPHRAIM: Anybody want to add to the record before I close out.
Donald Ephraim: I’m not sure.
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JC EPHRAIM: I don’t know what you mean down, but I mean not sure. Please help us understand what your question is.
Donald Ephraim: Or I’m not clear about questioning the comment. So you know, everybody has covered and so and then serious status of flux in between You know, you know, it’s actually or whatever we call it. Now, after I know we don’t call it recovery but
Donald Ephraim: I just see that where we at now with this pandemic? Is that because of no testing? That and as stated in a report is clear, that is higher. And I thought I heard John say that If testing, if they were testing it sure that we’re at a much higher rate than what’s actually being reported. So,
Donald Ephraim: Now, of course, we’ve moved into, I think another phase of the pandemic and that is how long Cove is now. Becoming more and more evident the problem. I think there’s because people can’t recognize they can’t recognize they’re looking at so,
Donald Ephraim: It’s, I just don’t know how or out of control these things spiral before they get a handle on a restaurant says. It’s not the new pandemic.
JC EPHRAIM: Well, I’m not sure they’re going to be a newness to pandemic. I think there is just the pandemic worldwide, just say worldwide, pandemic is by definition, pandemic worldwide. But here’s the thing. I think we’re on the right track to make something you said ages ago. It’s just becomes your covid. Nobody else’s. Just yours. You follow me. You got me? Yeah, yeah,…
Donald Ephraim: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
JC EPHRAIM: just becomes your covid each person’s own private hill. Each person’s own private health. In other words, it becomes your covid, the interventions that they’re working on right now. That are looking to be effective with just prevent people from infecting other people. It mitigates you being infected and it will prevent you from affecting somebody else.
JC EPHRAIM: But if you can’t get it, you can’t pass it. But if you already got it you got it. You just got it. That’s it.
Donald Ephraim: Right.
JC EPHRAIM: They don’t know if it’s gonna change in your body and turn into something that person said Oh I haven’t had covid. I got covid infection back in April. Of 2021. You want to give them a tongue kiss. You want a French kisser? In April of 2022 or 2023, you want to French kiss them.
JC EPHRAIM: That’s going to become a real question. do your tongue, kiss somebody
JC EPHRAIM: Who. The last time they had a cute symptoms of covid was a year ago. Is it safe? Is it safe? And not get. In fact, you’re reinfected, is it safe?
Donald Ephraim: All right.
JC EPHRAIM: That becomes a real question. Do you have sex with him?
JC EPHRAIM: Okay. It becomes it becomes a real. These are real life Phenomenas.
Donald Ephraim: Yes, No. All right, to me to me. It’s equivalent if I’m standing in the elevator. Breathing your exhale. And, and…

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JC EPHRAIM: Right.
Donald Ephraim: I don’t.
Donald Ephraim: It’s for me. I am my thoughts as I do it. It’s like, well, it’s equivalent to having history. Because it’s inside of you is in fact you just came out your mouth,…
JC EPHRAIM: It would be.
Donald Ephraim: not your lungs out of your mouth.
JC EPHRAIM: Yeah.
Donald Ephraim: Into the air. I just breathe into. And that’s it’s and when I saw that to me, you know, my perspective was like, Okay, I’m gonna be reading the same here, this first thing, I’m sharing the same, so whatever they have.
JC EPHRAIM: Yes, it is a very intimate thing to exchange breath with another human being got it. However, I want to put this on it isn’t but it’s a however at this. What The CDC looks at is in the waste. You go in the bathroom in a public bathroom. You flush the toilet. There’s fecal spray Does that get to infect it if you unmasked and in there and you breathe in the fecal matter that’s in the air the same fecal. Matter, they’re testing this has coronavirus in it. When they’re looking in the sewers My question becomes this
JC EPHRAIM: When will it be safe to be intimate with other people? if you’re in a setting where everybody’s infected How, how does that work? And they tell you, and maybe, I can’t even prove it. I haven’t Had, they’ll say I haven’t had Covid, or I had covid back in April, 2021. I have clients who go up and down on the scale as we speak. They’re thinking’s in pair, it’s in there. Some days, they have good days, some weeks, they have good week, some weeks to have bad week, some weeks and months have bad months, I have them on my case load and they haven’t been infected with covid in their nasal. They take routine covid test. I gives them the test. They don’t have it in those. They go take PCR. They don’t have any nose but I see the impact.
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JC EPHRAIM: Their body sometimes, go off the chart, their bodies do weird stuff. Gastrointestinal mainly gastrointestinal, lower. This one guy I’m working with, he is a beautiful test case. I’ve got to get him to tell his story so you guys can listen to it. He can lay it for you. 35 years old will tell you when he got infected tell you when he lost it got the lungs. Tell you when as I went out, told you when he had surgery told you, when he had to have the brain surgery told you. Yes, yeah. Between
JC EPHRAIM: Gaps. And then his body. Stop focusing in the lower gaps in between perfect example of You, Get Covid. You Got Kobe because his original covid infection, wasn’t that bad, and then he had a break, and the next thing you know this, this respiratory thing kicks up, that goes away. Next thing, you know, he gets a detached retina next thing, you know, he got a blood card in his brain, fluid in his brain. Next thing, you know, he had the spaces and then places places over almost a two-year period. Real powerful stuff. So, what I’m trying to say is, he’s a good microcosm of what’s happening from even a moderate infection. So let’s take out the expression of acuteness and then going to draw conclusions. That is unrelated, that’s a joke. That that makes no sense. Got to be delusional. so, the question is,
JC EPHRAIM: Once you have it, like Don said, you have Covid. Gail gave us multisystem. You gave us. You got it versus you, don’t have it. Now, you’re dealing in an environment where everybody is behaving in a way. Unless you say, Well, this is their lifestyle everybody and you got it because it’s spread That far. Question, is how It’s the likely of transmission and infection for me. In the surviving. Well, they’re coming up with something that truly makes it, your covid, not my covid.
JC EPHRAIM: I spray the spray in my nose, I’m making this up, I’m not making up the spray stuff but they get take it to clinical trials. It proves out what’s happening in animal models primate models lab cultures boom, hit myself and I can’t get it and I’m wearing a mask. Maybe you know what, I’m wearing a little man. If I’m around people, why I take a chance, I’m gonna fly on the plane or whatever, but I took the medicine to prevent infection to wash my mouth out with the medicine, prevent saliva infection, which is the two Orpheus is in my body. That get impacted. I haven’t done this. I’m not getting it. Okay, I go among people. I’m not getting it. That’s what they’re working on. That’s what they’re at to make it truly, a person’s covid and the other ones don’t have to worry about it in each other. So if you kiss somebody, it ain’t gonna infect yourself. Even if they got.
JC EPHRAIM: The exactly the transmit supposed not to use the nasus but I’m not putting that in my body. I’m not spraying nothing up my nose. Do you sleep with her anyway because you did it? These are real questions that need to be addressed. As it relate to the scenario. Well, do I have sex with this person? Do I not have sex with this person? Do I have kiss with this person? She’s refusing? No, I’m not gonna I’m not gonna do anything vaccination. Yeah that made a lot of sense that was all a bunch of BS, got it. Everything they said turned out not to be true except in the aftermath It mitigates lower infection. Mitigates infection in the lower respiratory system. Got it. I’m all about that. But as far as it goes with oh people don’t get covid after that. That was a bump. That was that was crazy.
JC EPHRAIM: And they’re not really working real hard. I mean, they worked real hard on getting the the medication ready for preventing transmission between people but they’re not going a lot of money because people won’t let them control it. You don’t think companies have come to these people and say we will finance the clinical trials, provide it we can buy it. I learned that from Rockefeller. He said every innovation that people brought around standing Standard Oil, he said every innovation they brought It’s not just valid, It was great. He said How much you want for that? And they said, I don’t want to sell it. I want I want to work with you. I want you to help me. I want you become a partner. He said to him, plain and simple. It’s easier for me to invest in something, if I own it. Because of human nature. Same thing with biotech. Pfizer moderna.
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JC EPHRAIM: That’s why they’re out there searching for eight. They haven’t done any, what they should be doing, is find a bunch of us who they can do cloud. What do they call that thing? A gofundme. They can raise the money one way or the other, say, well, but then you got all of us as partners because you’re gonna create a product, but that may be the only way to go worldwide. There’s enough of us in the world, to send him a dollar and they’d have a billion dollars overnight. To go ahead and develop and do clinical trials around this.
JC EPHRAIM: But people in that, well, we did it invented it. So it belongs to and that’s what’s interfering with progress. Well, with currently trying to raise funding, picking basically trying to pick the right partner so that they don’t get aced out of the deal, you know? And just simply get a Nobel Prize. Which is a million dollars or something now, but they they said, but have no control over what people do with it and who they sell it to and all that kind of stuff. Africa needs this badly. because the population will and is dwindling just as we speak, it’s getting smaller and smaller and smaller which is have always been for the hundreds of years ago. A white culture to decrease the population of Africa so that they can get access to those resources.
JC EPHRAIM: That’s what where they’ve been at all along. And the only two things that have held the back is whether and how many black folks over there, That’s been their strongest drawback, you say. Well, it’s the people and the weather we’ve been told in Somalia that they are, that there is an outlaw country, it’s outlaw, our Lord of Western, Western folks, but we got clients who went to visit their folks in Somali. Yeah, they got to pay for what they get, you pay so much for this. This part of the road, you pay that part of road, you pay that part of roads, you pay wherever you go and you pay to go pay to come. Back told me she needed a whole bunch of dollar bills. Because the medium of exchange, that’s a lot of money. American currency and no people weren’t looking to take every dollar in your pocket. You didn’t have to go in there with the idea that Well, why don’t they just take all the money and kill me. Why? Because it doesn’t make sense.
JC EPHRAIM: Because then nobody’s gonna come through with American money, but if they just say, they got to pay a toll every step of the way people can go with that. Angle with that. But we call them terrorists. We call them pirates. We got words for people and say, No, you’re not gonna do this to me. You know, outlaws, you’re not gonna do this to me. Outside of the law, you’re living outside of the law. Everybody’s not trying to take somebody else’s stuff. Sometimes they just don’t want to be, you know, shall we say put in a place where like Beyoncé when the land of our captivity and be treated as such no matter what? All right. So anybody got any comments before we go?
JC EPHRAIM: All right, all right. So, code Red still in King County. Colby’s, code, Red, still got a problem, big problem here. That’s what I know.
JC EPHRAIM: The innovation is going good. This has been a powerful meaning for me. I’ll have, like I said, nizala this week, we’ll send over to Kevin and David what we talked about, I will go and pull the question. Okay. David Kevin. I’ll send it to you. I know you said, you you gonna stand down, but I still want you to know what’s going on, not expecting you to do anything, but David I’m expecting you to do something. I will send you over the questions that I got to answer a reference to what healthier here is asking. Okay. And you and I can have conversations about. This is the question.
JC EPHRAIM: How does that work? Because I need to know more about how chat GPT work and any of the other add-ons or whatever it is we need to do. So I’d like to set up something with you as early as this week maybe even tomorrow. Okay. Make some time for me to have a conversation with you and for you to demonstrate to me. What chat tpt. I want to see it in action. You follow me, David. You got me?
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David Elfalan: The answer. Yeah, why don’t you Send me the transcription of this meeting. All right.
JC EPHRAIM: Okay. Okay,…
JC EPHRAIM: no problem. All right. Let’s see what these things can do. And we can start having conversations about it and see if it makes any sense. All…
David Elfalan: And we’ll start here.

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David Elfalan: All right.
JC EPHRAIM: Anybody else?
JC EPHRAIM: Anybody, anybody, anybody? All right, so I’m gonna go off and do this financial literacy work that I’m doing with one of my interns do her budget stuff and that’s why I’m going to do that rest a little bit and Eat a little bit. Call it good. You guys have a good day. Thank you.
Donald Ephraim: All right, you do that.
JC EPHRAIM: All right.
Donald Ephraim: All right.
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